This is an excerpt from Senate hearings yesterday on interrogation techniques. Ali Soufan is a former senior FBI agent involved in the interrogation of captured al-Qaida operative Abu Zubaydah. Lindsay Graham is a Republican senator from South Carolina.
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM: Do you believe that any good information was obtained through harsh interrogation techniques? Can you say that there was no good information?
ALI SOUFAN: Well, from what I know on the Abu Zubaydah, I would like you to evaluate the information that we got before—
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM: Well, the Vice President’s suggesting that there was good information obtained, and I’d like the committee to get that information. Let’s have both sides of the story here. I mean, one of the reasons these techniques have survived for about 500 years is apparently they work.
ALI SOUFAN: Because, sir, there’s a lot of people who don’t know how to interrogate—
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM: Right.
ALI SOUFAN: —and it’s easier to hit someone than outsmart them.
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